Should the Dodgers have started Kershaw in Game 7?

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Nick Swisher joins the show to talk Los Angeles Dodgers vs Houston Astros. Should LA have gone with Clayton Kershaw in Game 7?

- All right, Cowherd, should the Dodgers have started Kershaw last night?

- No, the media's idiotic.

- I plead guilty to that.

COLIN COWHERD: The media's just full of dumb people. First of all, the last time Clayton was out there, he got rocked, OK, against the same team.

Secondly, he came in last night with no pressure. None. That's different than starting. That's one of the most embarrassing questions. Seriously.

JASON WHITLOCK: I had it last night as I was laying on my couch watching the game. Honestly.

COLIN COWHERD: You thought that.

- Yeah, I thought--

COLIN COWHERD: Yeah, after they trailed.

- No, no, no, no--

COLIN COWHERD: Oh, you're--

- --no, no, no, I was--

- --you're one of those great.

- Yeah, I thought it-- again, I'm not saying-- look, I'm no baseball savant. The guy pitched four innings. And I was like, what the hell? If he could go four innings, that would have been great to start the game. It would have-- listen, it's a silly thought. I get it. Because eventually, the Dodgers are going to need to score more than one run regardless of anything. So I don't blame them.

- Darvish is your number two starter.

- Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher of the last 25, 30 years.

- But he hasn't been in the postseason.

- You're paying him a ton of money.

- Oh, now it's down to his salary.

JASON WHITLOCK: That's how a lot of decisions are made.

- Can you imagine saying, you know, we got to put Gronk in the backfield to run, because we pay him so much at tight end.

JASON MCINTYRE: Fired up today.

- It's Game 7. He got boxed the last time he was out there. This is not a team, Houston, that you face fatigued. You better be ready to go. They're the best hitting team in--

JASON WHITLOCK: He was good for four innings.

- Oh, good lord

NICK SWISHER: I tell you what, you know--

- He was very tired, but he looked good for four innings.


NICK SWISHER: --the thing with Clayton Kershaw is he doesn't--

- Hold on. Houston wasn't swinging at his pitches or what?

COLIN COWHERD: No, but they led 5-0. Again, it's much easier to hide in the backseat of the car instead of drive it through that lineup.

JASON WHITLOCK: Do you know what Darvish is in the postseason beyond the first inning?

COLIN COWHERD: Oh, by the way--

- Total garbage.


- Like 5.81 ERA.

COLIN COWHERD: Won a game in the NLDS. Won a game in the NLCS. Darvish won big games in both those series. He's their two starter. They're paying him a lot of money.

- Not Clayton Kershaw money.

- Oh, brother.

JASON WHITLOCK: I'm just telling you what--

- Brother.

- I'm going to defend the media for one of the few times in my life. It's a question fans had.


- And people like me laying on the couch are like--

COLIN COWHERD: Yeah, you know what? Do you know why fans are not allowed in the press room? Idiots. Am I wrong? Am I?

- Hey, you're right and you're right. It is a great question only because Clayton Kershaw pitched well. If he would have came out and given up a couple runs here and there, this question wouldn't have been asked.

Now, let's think about it. Yu Darvish, like you're saying, the first inning, his ERA's like 1.6. From the second inning on, what was it? Like close to 6, if I'm--


- --not mistaken, right?


- So I feel like just-- it's crazy. Because in a Game 7, the first Game 7 ever to be played in Dodger Stadium, and the Dodgers lost. No one in a million years would have thought something like that would have happened.

- Well, Nick, let me ask you guys this. I want to find a middle ground here. First time through the order, Yu pretty much gets rocked. Opens the game given up a double. Walks Brian McCann. Sitting, like, 200 in the series.

Should Dave Roberts have come out before the Springer home run and said, wait a sec. This is Game 7. We've got Clayton Kershaw. Maybe I need to pull Yu Darvish after one inning.


- What's wrong with that, Cowherd?

COLIN COWHERD: In the second inning.

JASON MCINTYRE: He gave up a three-run homer, and that was the game. It was over.

- Again, after the fact, we're all geniuses. Dave Roberts doesn't have that advantage. This is hindsight.

JASON MCINTYRE: Even after you watched--

- I would have said this yesterday, but I figured you would--

JASON MCINTYRE: --no, you watched Yu--

- --slap me around.

- --just get battered. I mean, Colin, everybody was hitting him in the first inning.

- God.

- One time through the lineup, he got rocked. Think about this. If we're playing pickup basketball, Swisher starts guarding me. I just start going to town on him. Cowherd will say--

- What? He-- who? What?

- --we got to get Swisher off McIntyre. That's a mismatch. In baseball, you see your starter getting rocked the first time through the lineup--

COLIN COWHERD: By the way--

- You got to make a change.

- --Rich Hill's been furious twice being pulled in the fourth. What message are you sending to your club?

- This is Game 7, Swisher.

- Oh.

- Come on.

NICK SWISHER: And you're right. I mean, all hands on deck. And it's so easy for us to sit here, because the game is so easy the next day--

COLIN COWHERD: Oh, of course.

- --and watching it from the press box or wherever you-- from your couch, wherever you want to watch it.

I think, in general, I think we're missing the boat here. I think what we need to talk about is the Houston Astros went out and won that World Series--


- --straight up. They need to be given the credit that they deserve.

COLIN COWHERD: Hey, also, the Dodgers were 1-for-13. The whole game they strand-- they led off every inning. They were on base.

NICK SWISHER: They had 10-- left 10 runners on base. So they--

JASON MCINTYRE: The pressure got to them.

- --they had their opportunities.

COLIN COWHERD: No, it's not pressure. The bottom line, Charlie Morton got--

JASON MCINTYRE: Oh, Charlie Morton! Yeah, that's right. I forgot.

- No, but every single inning-- I was watch--

JASON WHITLOCK: You don't think pressure had anything to do with the Dodgers play?

- Oh, god. What, The pressure in the air was only leaning toward the Dodger dugout?

JASON MCINTYRE: Well, let's see, home stadium, down 5-0--

- What happened to you?

- --from the jump.

COLIN COWHERD: 20 years in the business, you went nuts in this segment. You became--

NICK SWISHER: That's amazing! I'm loving that!

JASON MCINTYRE: Yesterday it was Joel Klatt. Today it's Cowherd. You got to fire back, Whitlock.

- The Dodgers had--

- Come on!

- --multiple base runners for seven innings. They couldn't drive in against Charlie Morton.

JASON WHITLOCK: The pressure busts pipes.


- And they were-- look, man, what, "Sports Illustrated," best team ever three months ago. I know "Sports illustrated" is bragging today about getting the Astros right three years ago. Three months ago, they had the Dodgers as the best team ever.

COLIN COWHERD: OK, you're watching the game in the fifth inning.


- You're thinking what I am. God, all they needed was one hit.

JASON WHITLOCK: I would agree.

- It was 5-1. If you get a guy on, which they did-- if they got two guys on, double, 5-3, we got a game!

NICK SWISHER: I was there to be part of that game. I had the honor of sitting there and watching it. And when Bellinger makes that error in the top of the first inning, and George Springer scores, all the air in the entire stadium was just, pssshhh, let out.

- But it was a high-scoring series. That's only 2-0, Nick. I mean, there's still plenty of time for the Dodgers to come back. No panic.

- Could I make an argument Roberts' big mistake is not dropping Cody Bellinger in the lineup.

NICK SWISHER: That's more of a question.

- Because that was a joke. He was completely-- now, by the way, he's a kid. What is he, 22?

NICK SWISHER: He's still learning a lot. Still got a lot to learn.

- But he looked overwhelmed last night. My biggest complaint was, why is he hitting fourth?

JASON WHITLOCK: Oh, the young kid chokes under pressure is what you're saying.