Everson Walls shares his phone call with Saints safety Marcus Williams

Hall of Fame finalist, Everson Walls joins Shannon Sharpe, Skip Bayless and Joy Taylor to discuss his advice to New Orleans safety Marcus Williams after the Saints loss.

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- So speaking of a rookie defensive back, there was one on Sunday up in Minneapolis who played for the New Orleans Saints named Marcus Williams, who had a terrific rookie year. But on what became the final play the game, he made what most people believe to be a mind-boggling decision. Can you put it in perspective from what you saw on that play?

- Yeah, I definitely can. As a defensive back, in that situation, first of all, you can say what you want. Everybody is talking about being this particular person at this time of the game. I'm that guy. I can depend on myself. You know, come at me, all of that.

Well, when it's all said and done, you're a little nervous. You're just a little nervous. And that's good to be nervous, because that heightens, you know, your senses.

SHANNON SHARPE: Your awareness. Yes.

- That's exactly right. So he was probably there. And when that ball went up in the air, that was his moment of truth. And he saw that. And sometimes, just that little bit of doubt-- it just takes that moment to really go from being a hero to being a guy that's blamed by every Saints fan for the downfall of earth and society, basically. That's the way they look at it.

SKIP BAYLESS: That is true.

- And at that moment, instead of making a play or not making a play, he ended up doing the latter. And it doesn't matter how it looks, you know, to him. All he knows is he didn't make the play. But when you have that type of indecision, you know, you become posterized. And hey, I've been there. Trust me. You know I've been there.

- Well, you were there when Dwight Clark went up in the fog at Candlestick your rookie year and made the catch.

- It wasn't fog. It wasn't fog, Skip. There was no fog.

- No fog? It just seems like in my head. Maybe there was fog in my head.

- Everybody wants to, you know, glorify it. I've talked to 10,000 people that say, hey, man. I was right there in the corner of that end zone. I'm like, man, Candlestick was not that big. OK? Couldn't have been all y'all coming through the end zone.

- You talked to everybody that was there.

EVERSON WALLS: Everybody was in the end zone.

SKIP BAYLESS: Not that you had a chance to break that play up, but you got posterized. Because I think it was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, and you can see--

- Oh, I definitely had a chance. There's no doubt about it. I put it on myself. Matter of fact, I called Marcus the other day.

SKIP BAYLESS: Marcus Williams?

- I called Marcus Williams. I was given his number. I was surprised he answered the phone, because there's no way I'd answer the freaking phone if-- not after all this crap.

- No.

- And he ended up answering the phone. We talked for a while. And you just got to share with the brother, man. I've been there. He had a great game. He had one interception.

SHANNON SHARPE: He played great this season.

- He had a great season. And matter of fact, they were talking about how great that entire secondary was, because they had a great half.

SHANNON SHARPE: Marshon Lattimore, yep.

- They've got a great, young secondary. And does that sound familiar?

- Mhm. It does.

- You know, we weren't Thurman's Thieves at the time. But we had Mike Downs, Ryan Phillips, and myself had just come to the Cowboys in 1981.

SKIP BAYLESS: Dennis Thurman was there.

- And here we are. And we are in that. Now, there was a fog. But the field was soggy as hell, as it always was. So that all added to the drama. You talk about that last drive in Candlestick, man, we were just bone dog tired. Even Dwight. I talked to him several times.

SKIP BAYLESS: Dwight Clark, yeah.

- Just so tired during that entire drive. And it was my man. Matter of fact, we had Dwight doubled on that play. But you know, as the play went and Joe's back there pumping and pumping, I'm like, what the hell's going on back there? I'm trying to, you know, man to man-- I don't know what's going on back there. I look back, there's the ball. And I'm thinking, oh, that sucker's gone. You know.

- Joe said he tried to throw it away.

- He did. Well, he changed it later to, you know, we practiced that. Yeah. You know how that goes.

- You've got to go with it.

EVERSON WALLS: It doesn't just grow legs. You know how it goes. And so, you know, with the flight of the ball, I didn't see it. I'm going towards the back. He's going towards the front.

But make no mistake, now. If I was seeing that ball, me and Dwight would have been going at it, OK? I would actually jump for the ball if I would have actually seen that. So those moments of indecision, I should have been doing what I always did.

And I told Marcus this. I should have played the way I always play. Look at the quarterback. Turn around and inflate. We called it clooey.

- Clooey.

- Tom Landry hated clooey. And he warned me against it. I led the league. He warned me every time I got in the session, watch the clooing. So I'm like, OK, this time, I'm going to do it this way.

- We'll play it straight up

- I should've just done me. That's what I told Marcus. From now on, do you. And he can offset this crap.

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