Ryan Hollins explains why he wants Duke and Kentucky to play for the National Championship

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Ryan Hollins and Jason McIntyre join Colin Cowherd and Jason Whitlock to discuss whether small schools making the Sweet 16 is bad for the NCAA Tournament.

JASON WHITLOCK: Cowherd, will the rest of the tourney be as entertaining as this past weekend?

- It will be better because I'll actually know the teams, the coaches, and the players. I like movies where I know the actor. I like plays where I know the actor. And I like Duke and Kentucky. And I'm going to see Kansas and I'm going to see Mark Few and Gonzaga. I am, I think, not to be contrarian, but I've never loved the upsets. I like the traditional powers. I don't want to watch the Fiesta Bowl. We had it with TCU and Boise State one year. Nobody watched. I want to see Georgia play Oklahoma and Ohio State. So now I get a condensed version of mostly really big teams and a few outliers.

- You're getting big teams, no question about it. You're not getting great teams. That's my point.


- And then two, look, there's only one upset left on the table, I think, in terms-- and it's not really an upset. I think 2 seed Duke plays 11 seed Syracuse. Anything else that happens the rest of this tournament won't be remotely surprising. Again, I think it's the South region, any damn thing can happen there and it's not a surprise. If they reinvigorated a 16 seed and put them back in the tournament it wouldn't be a surprise. So I don't think it's going to be-- the people that want to see the upsets and the dramatic games that are meaningful, not happening.

- Well, have you looked at the Vegas spreads guys? That Duke-Syracuse is the only double-digit spread. The rest are six and under. So Vegas expecting a lot of close games.

So I'm going to push back on you Jason. You wouldn't be shocked if Nevada somehow beat Kentucky?

- No.

- Nevada, you would not be surprised by that?

- No, I've watched Kentucky all year. Anybody can beat Kentucky.

COLIN COWHERD: Kentucky can't shoot.


- Well this is true, but again, we're talking about Kentucky, one of the blue bloods of college basketball losing to possibly Nevada or Loyola of Chicago. That would be a colossal shock.

- That sounds bigger than the reality of what it is.


- It does sound--

- It sounds-- exactly, yeah.

- --huge. But I don't think it would be. What's the line on that game, six, five?

- Probably five or six, yeah.

- I agree though Colin. I think you were reading my notes earlier, but nobody wants to see-- I don't want to disrespect [INAUDIBLE]. Nobody wants to see these unknown mid-majors in the championships.

And I'm going go back to your point earlier. This is a Steph Curry, LeBron James pyramid scheme. And I say that, why? Because all these parents see Steph Curry, LeBron James and they go oh, we can get rich quick. We can get a $100, $200 million contract. All these kids play basketball at a young age. So now what happens with a pyramid scheme when it goes wrong? It gets oversaturated. And now you see this in college basketball.

But I completely agree. Listen, I'm going to say something that I never thought I would say. I'm going to be cheering for Kentucky as a UCLA guy. I'm going to be cheering for Duke because I want to see an entertaining Final Four and championship. I don't want to see-- I'm sorry Nevada. I don't want to see Nevada. I don't want to see K-State. I don't want to see-- I don't want to see any of these unknown teams in the championship.

- But you say that Ryan, and then the games happen and Nevada storms back from down 20 and you're like, oh my gosh. You watched Texas Tech-Florida. Did you watch that Saturday night? That game was unbelievable. It was separated by five points like most of the way back and forth, players putting their careers on the line. Because a lot of these guys, they're not going to the NBA.

- I think--

- Maybe they'll play [INAUDIBLE].

- I hear you. I think of the Drew League. Everybody knew the Drew League. We would go out. It wasn't a big deal. The Drew League blew up when Harden, LeBron, Durant, all these pros got in the league. So if you take the pro, the future professional basketball players out of this NCAA tournament, we're not going to have much to talk about. Oh man, he's going to have a great 10-year career overseas. No, you've got to see the pros. You want to see these kids shine. Go Duke. Let's go.

- I do think the tournament is a bit dependent upon Duke.

COLIN COWHERD: Oh yeah, yeah.

- Viewership, ratings.

- Again, but I'm not sure any-- and it's Grayson Allen and Marvin Bagley and Coach K. But the rest of this, I'm just sorry, even though they have big names, Kansas-- you know, again, I spent 16 years following Kansas very closely. Devonte' Graham just-- that ain't Paul Pierce.


That's ain't even Jacque Vaughn to me, seriously. So again, it's, we're dependent on Duke and then a bunch of teams that have big names, even Kentucky. Most of the players, this isn't Karl Anthony Towns at Kentucky this year.

RYAN HOLLINS: Yes, yeah.

- There's some good players and things and there's some big-name schools, but in terms of what you really want to see--

- No, it's been diluted. I'm watching yesterday, Texas A&M, which has a bunch of NFL players--


--and Texas A&M has no NBA players of note except DeAndre Jordan played for a year. So it's a football school more than basketball. And I'm watching a basketball power in North Carolina, A&M had way better players. So I do think what you're saying, to your point, it's diluted, is the good players are out quickly.

You know, college basketball is a little bit like an airport. You land, nobody wants to stay there overnight. You're looking for the first flight out of town. And if you do have to stay, you're not happy about it. By and large the players with real talent land in this sport and they're looking at the classes they've got to take, four, and they can't wait to leave.

JASON WHITLOCK: It's a connecting flight.

- Williams will be a pro Colin.

- It's a connecting flight.

- Williams will be a pro.