- All right, Cowherd, you have an issue with Kizer partying late on a Friday night.
- I do. I always have. That's why I was never a fan of Johnny Manziel out of college. When Nick Saban was saying you've got to draft Johnny Manziel, I said no thanks. And it's why I was a fan of Deshaun Watson out of college, because Dabo Swinney's like, you're never going to meet a kid this committed.
Like, this whole quarterback thing is not just about "big arm scramble." You're grown up. You committed. Do you care? Do optics matter? That's why the first time I met Russell Wilson-- he was 22-- I turned to my producer in radio and I'm like, he's going to be the commissioner in 15 years.
This stuff matters. I get clobbered for saying this, but it's like-- I use the term "quarterbackial." You've got to be presidential, you know? I don't love Trump on Twitter, and I don't like my quarterbacks out at 1:40 at a nightclub. I just don't.
- Yeah, I 1,000% agree with you. And I think Hue Jackson was basically trying to cover up--
COLIN COWHERD: Yes.
- --what his real thoughts are, because I think Hue wanted to take Deshaun Watson. They traded away the 12 pick, and Deshaun Watson went someplace else.
And they get DeShone Kizer, a guy that Brian Kelly said needs to be in college, still has some growing up to do, bada bing, bada boom. Saturday, 1:30 in the morning, in your rookie season, you're struggling. This makes no sense.
MICHAEL VICK: Yeah. You're 0 and 6, and you're out at a bar at 1:30. Even when I was a rookie and I wasn't playing, I was smart enough to know, in Atlanta don't be out past 12 o'clock. And I always felt like nothing good happens after 12 o'clock.
And the most important thing was to be in that playbook. You're 0 and 6-- there's no room for that. This is a welcome to the NFL moment for DeShone Kizer, I think. And hopefully this will be a wake-up call.
Because now he has to refocus. He has to gain back the respect of the fans, so to speak, and he has to find a way to turn this around. Hopefully this will change his mindset in terms of how he prepared, and go out and try to win a football game.
- Yeah. You know what you remind me of? Herman Edwards. He used to come out and say, there's no reason to be out past 12 o'clock. If you're a true player--
MICHAEL VICK: Yeah.
- --you can be home. But whatever you need to get done you should be able to get done before 12 o'clock, if you're a true player. But I will say this, the quarterback is held to the higher standard. I don't have a problem if, like, for me-- I remember you wrote articles about me, and you probably don't even remember.
JASON WHITLOCK: Yes, I do.
- You were talking about Derrick Thomas. You said Derrick Thomas needs to pass the nightlife king to Tony Gonzalez, because I guess he was hanging out too late.
- And I like to hang out. I am that player that would go out on a Friday night when I was younger--
MICHAEL VICK: Yeah.
- --when I was younger, and I could handle it. Now, as I got older, you make adjustments. And then by the time my 17th year came, I was in. I didn't even go out during the week, because I wanted to get my rest and get my sleep.
But when you're 21-22 years old, you can handle that stuff. But as a quarterback, perception is so key at this time. Can't do it.
- You know, it's funny. I was talking to an NFL guy a couple weeks ago, and he said the combine's really tough. He goes, for everybody at the combine, except quarterbacks, it is a week-long, neck-down test. He goes, but the quarterbacks all neck-up.
So you go to the combine and you get nothing out of it except for the interview. And he's like, you have to figure out in that 15-minute window, do you love football, or like what it gives you? Are you committed? Are you a grownup? Can you yell at teammates?
Listen, you guys are great examples, because you liked to go out early, you had some missteps. I don't think this defines him.
- I think he can--
- No, not at all.
- The smartest kid I ever went to high school with pulled the fire extinguishers. He ended up being number one in his class and going to Air Force. 18-year-old kids make mistakes.
- I don't think it defines him. You don't get into Notre Dame--
JASON WHITLOCK: I didn't like the way he handled it, though.
- No, I didn't either.
- I didn't like his answer at the post--
TONY GONZALEZ: He got caught off-guard, too. He didn't know what to do. I've been in that situation. You're like, oh-- you start scrambling. You know this. And you're like, uh.
- I'm not here to talk about my personal life and all that. I didn't like the way there was no remorse there. And I know they caught him with his pants down on the spot, but I didn't like the way he handled it.
And look, Brian Kelly already told us the kid's immature. And so, again, just like Johnny Manziel, how many bumps in the road did he have, and he still couldn't make the turn?
COLIN COWHERD: When you had a couple situations in Atlanta, did you go home that night? Did you talk to your girlfriend? I mean, like, what centered you? Because you had a couple missteps.
- Well, I had so many, it was just-- I got it on my own. But I had multiple people coming to me and different sources just saying, listen, Mike, if you don't change, you will find out what the NFL stands for, and that's not for long. And in my third year I really got it, but I was all over the place.
I did the things that DeShone Kizer did, but we was winning, you know? My second you we went to the playoffs, so I got a little complacent, and I stepped out of the box a little bit. But like I said, when you're not winning games, you're held to a higher standard.
JASON WHITLOCK: But, guys, he's struggling to hold onto his starting job. He's already been benched once.
MICHAEL VICK: He's in and out of the lineup.
- Yeah. And so you would think they just turned the job back over to you, and this is the week you're hanging in the club until 1:30 in the morning? And you know, I mean, Tony, you've got a tight end, a wide receiver--
- I think it's different.
- Yeah, it's totally different deal than your quarterback. DeShone Kizer, good luck to you.