- Do you think this story's going to go away when the season starts?
- No, because I think Colin Kaepernick is about to give the story some steam. I think Colin Kaepernick will talk the opening weekend of the NFL. I think he will agree to an interview at some point over the next week to few days. And he will inject himself into the story line of the opening weekend.
Obviously, his supporters will continue to churn out stories. I don't think the story's going away. I think, like, "Sports Illustrated" put out their football issue, four different covers, four different-- they were all kneeling. It was some kind of subtle message.
The media's not going to let this story go. Kaepernick is eventually going to talk. I happen to believe it's going to be opening weekend.
- Generally, though, whether it's Kaepernick or Michael Sam or Tebow, the extension of a story generally comes down to is it a talented person who can play? The Ball family, when Lonzo Ball plays for the Lakers and it's good, that story's not going away. If he stinks, it goes away. The family's not as relevant.
Kaepernick is, after all, fighting for a backup role. I mean, at some point, won't there be another story? If Michael Sam was a great player, that story would have greater legs, wouldn't it?
- Kaepernick's being used to attack the NFL and to paint the NFL as racist. The people that are using him to do that-- and he's now in on it-- aren't going to let this go. People are out to get football and the NFL. And I keep trying to tell people black people are too successful in football, and these liberals want to put a stop to that. And they're not going to give up on the Kaepernick story.
- It's not going to go away because we won't let it go away. Because as long as we keep talking about it, it's going to continue to go. It's going to continue to grow. I read that "SI" story today, and it was laughable to me, because if you're a GM or you're a coach and you agreed and cosigned and put your name next to your quote. Nothing's worse than hearing--
- Let me give a little contest. "Sports Illustrated" did a story, Albert Breer did. We talked about it off air not on air. And they quoted some general managers about Kaepernick, and they were critical. Go ahead.
- So facts-- because everyone is saying-- and I'm just going to take one area of the fallacy of what these GMs and coaches are putting out.
- - Said anonymously.
- --what they said anonymously. They said he's a pocket-- he's not a pocket passer. He's better on the run, so on and so forth. So let me give you some numbers. Last year, Colin Kaepernick threw 331 passes, OK? Guess how many from the pocket? 282.
Now, football people-- oh, but he must have thrown a whole bunch of screens and a bunch of checks down. No, no, no. 20 out of the 331 screens and check downs. Now, let's talk about what's around him and why he played so bad last year. Wide receivers-- Torrey Smith, Jeremy Kerley, Quinton Patton, Vance McDonnell, and Garrett Selig at tight end. Now, you tell me what quarterback in NFL is going to have success with that roster.
- And they might telling a story about, I'd have had more success if I had a good quarterback, but continue.
- Yeah, I don't think it's going away anytime soon, because it's not about Colin Kaepernick. It's simply not the ball Colin Kaepernick. Is there no more, all of a sudden, no more social injustice? Have we resolved it? Is there no more racial discrimination? Is there-- are we are we now practicing fair labor laws? Like, is there no more unfair labor?
This is why we're even talking about this, because this is what he was fighting for. This is what he was provoking. This is why he chose--
- No, this is what he was standing for. This is--
- Allegedly, we can say allegedly a lot of things. But it's not solely about Colin Kaepernick. It's greater than Colin Kaepernick. So, no, it's not going anywhere.
- See, you hit on the point that I've been trying to make all along when I talk about the method and the message. Football people would have to believe that it's about the stats and it's about his poor play. In reality, that's the shield that they try to put up to keep you from looking at what the real issue is--
- --and why he took the stance in the first place. We hear you, but we don't hear you. All we hear is that you can't play, that you are against the military, you're anti-American, you're anti-police, and anti all of this. This is what we hear. But they don't want to face the fact of the things that you just may point of.
- And social-- we got to wrap here. But should NFL coaches, general managers, should they be at the forefront of fixing these issues you're talking about? They have an issue in winning football games. That's their issue. If Colin Kaepernick wants to address police brutality and injustice, that's not their area of expertise. So they're just not that interested.