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Thirty Preseason Questions with Tony Stewart
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Updated Feb 6, 2005 12:29 PM ET
One championship. Nineteen wins. Seven poles. Seventy-seven top-five finishes. One hundred and twenty-four top-10 finishes. Those are the numbers that Tony Stewart and the #20 Home Depot Racing Team have accumulated in their six years together in the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series. But despite the impressive figures, the most pressing matter of the moment is readying for the 2005 Nextel Cup season. The wins, the poles and the accolades of year's past don't mean much when another grueling, 36-race schedule looms ahead. For all intents and purposes, it's just another series of never-ending performance reviews. As such, the #20 Joe Gibbs Racing squad completed two test sessions in January - one at Daytona (Fla.) and another at Texas - with two more being performed at Las Vegas and California prior to the annual February pilgrimage to Daytona for Speedweeks and the ensuing grind that will consume all teams right through the end of November. Two years removed from their status as reigning series champions, the #20 team enters 2005 with their eyes fixed on earning career win #20 and then some while securing their second series championship and the third for Joe Gibbs Racing. While plenty of questions surround the upcoming season, there are no questions regarding the on-track success of the #20 team. And thanks to an off-season filled with testing and new car construction, The Home Depot Racing Team aims to keep it that way. At the core of the #20 team's success is the combination of driver Stewart and crew chief Greg Zipadelli. The 2005 season marks their seventh year together, for what is currently the longest active driver/crew chief relationship in the Nextel Cup Series. Encapsulating their accomplishments together and the accomplishments of the entire #20 team is their string of top-10 point finishes. In six years together the #20 team has never finished lower than seventh in points (fourth in 1999, sixth in 2000, second in 2001, first in 2002, seventh in 2003 and sixth in 2004). "When we started this team back in late '98, we put a young group of people together and we all made a commitment to work together and take care of each other as best as we could as a company," said Zipadelli, quick to defer credit to those who surround him. "Without them we couldn't have gotten as far as we have in the past six years. "Everyone takes a lot of pride in what we've been able to accomplish and how we're structured. They ought to. They're the hardest working group of guys in the garage. I'd be willing to put them up against anybody. I've been lucky that they've all hung together and I haven't had any indication that any of them wanted to leave. To me, that's good. They all plan on being here this year and in the years to come." And with 2005 now upon the #20 team, Stewart and Zipadelli play "30 Questions" before packing their bags for Daytona.
TONY STEWART, driver of the #20 Home Depot Chevrolet
How have you and Greg Zipadelli managed to have the longest active driver/crew chief relationship in Nextel Cup?
He's (Zipadelli) a very tolerant and patient person, I know that. To work with me you have to be. But I think first and foremost we realized from day one that we both had the same passion and desire to win races. When you get two people with the same desire and the same passion, you always find a way of working well together.
What are the key elements to a successful, long-term driver/crew chief relationship?
I don't know. Greg and I just get along really well. We understand each other. I'm hard to get to understand sometimes, but with Zippy, even though we may not have raced in the same backgrounds, a lot of the things that have happened with us have been very similar. It's kind of like having a big brother that you learn from, whether it's stuff that goes on at the race track or away from the race track. I lean on him quite a bit. We both have the same passion and desire to win and I think that's a pretty strong bond right there.
How much does a long-term driver/crew chief relationship play in the success of a race team?
You look at a situation like Jason's (Leffler) this year. He's working with a new crew chief. There's going to be a transition period of learning each other and learning what it means when Jason says that his car is a little bit loose. Dave (Rogers, crew chief) has to figure out what a little bit loose means to Jason. When I say the car is a little bit loose, Zippy knows how much a little is. If I say that my car is a lot loose, Zippy knows how much of an adjustment will compensate for a lot. Right away when we go to Daytona we'll have worked together for six years, and he can tell in my tone of voice whether or not I'm comfortable with something. I may not change my words, but just the tone that I deliver them in will give him an indication that it's a little more severe or a little less severe than what he's thinking by watching me out on the race track.
There have been some tough times that this team has had to endure, but it seems as though those times are becoming few and far between. Regardless, you and Zipadelli have stood firmly together. How?
I know I can be a challenge for him, but that's no secret to anybody. That's just passion and desire. Sometimes the way it comes out is different than the way it should be. But at the end of the day, Zippy cares about me as a person and not as a piece of equipment. First and foremost he cares about me as a person. Having that kind of support from that kind of a person is what gets you through the tough times. And when you do have success, that's what makes it more gratifying.
Has Zipadelli been a key person throughout your NASCAR career, both publicly and privately?
Absolutely. He's been the one person I talk to the most, and not because somebody has forced me to but because he genuinely cares about me as a person. No matter what aspect of my life it is - we talk about more things in my life that are going on outside the race track than what's going on at the race track - that's the part that makes a driver/crew chief relationship that's in its seventh year so prosperous.
Is your relationship with Zipadelli something that will last throughout your NASCAR career?
I would have no problem retiring from this sport with him as my crew chief, and I'll say that to the day I die. He knows me better than anybody. He knows me better than some of the girlfriends I've dated. You cherish relationships like that both on and off the race track.
Has Zipadelli helped you develop a comfort level with the way NASCAR works?
There are always going to be things that rub you raw, but Zippy has a way of turning those kinds of things into positives. You don't focus on it; you just focus on what you have to do to make it work for you. It's easy for people just to throw their hands up and say 'I can't deal with this.' But Zippy is one of those guys that finds a way to deal with things, and he's known me long enough that he knows how to deal with me. Something that might've aggravated me for three or four weeks in the past might only aggravate me for three or four days now because he's able to put it in a way that I understand, and in turn, I can deal with it differently.
Has there ever been a time when your relationship with Zipadelli was strained?
I think there have been times where he's wanted to knock my head off. But every time that's come around he's had a legitimate reason for that. But I think it shows how strong a person Zippy really is. He's never given up on me. There's been a bunch of times where he's been really frustrated and disappointed with me, but he's never turned his back on me. No matter how good or bad our career goes from here on out, he's the guy I want to do it with.
How did you spend your off-season?
I had fun. I bought a Midget over the off-season. I bought it at 11:45 one night and by four o'clock the next day I was qualifying it on two-year old tires and at 10 o'clock we were getting our picture taken in victory lane with it. That was fun. I ran the Chili Bowl, but other than that I spent a lot of time at home. Since buying Eldora I've been in a lot of conversations as we get it ready for the 2005 season. That's a huge learning process for me. I didn't go to the Bahamas. I didn't go to any tropical islands. Probably the most exciting thing I did was Zippy's Crusade for Kids charity snowmobile ride up in New York. That's probably the only vacation I took. The rest of the time I was at home enjoying my friends and family and trying to get all my businesses straightened out before the season started and I had to go back to work.
Is there a favorite part of the NASCAR season for you?
Normally by the end of the season I'm ready for a break. This is probably as fresh as I've been going into a season. I'm ready to go back to work and ready to go down to Daytona. Not going down there for three days of testing has made me more excited to get down there for Speedweeks. Between testing and the Rolex 24 Hour race we're going to be pretty busy leading up to Daytona, but I still feel better than I ever have heading into a season. But the whole season is a fun season. The format is fun with having the Chase for the last 10 races - it splits the season up to where you kind of get a fresh start with 10 to go.
Whenever a new season begins do you set goals?
When I was racing Midget and Sprint cars and paying my own bills, you learned to try to win each race. If you did that everything else seemed to take care of itself. Your goal is to stay consistent all year, and if we can do that I guess that's our goal.
What does the #20 team have to do better in 2005?
What do we have to do better? I wish it was that easy to just pinpoint one thing. We just need to be more consistent. When that last 10-week stretch comes around, we need to be able to pump out top-five finishes, and that's something we weren't able to do last year.
You've mentioned that your 2004 title run was thwarted by inconsistency. Where did you feel you were inconsistent?
All you have to do is look at where we finished. It was like a roller-coaster. We were all over the place. Every place where we were 15th or 25th or somewhere in that range is where we need to work to get back into the top-10. There was no one area. From one weekend to the next we were a little inconsistent. Thankfully, we have the same people we had last year. Obviously, Greg and I have been together for a long time. This is our seventh year together and that's a huge advantage for us. Having the relationship that we have and knowing each other as well as we know each other, that's going to help us a ton.
Last year you were essentially knocked out of the Chase after the first race when you were caught up in an accident not of your making. Is there any way you or NASCAR can prevent such a thing from happening again this year?
There are 43 guys who start the race and there's 10 of us in the Chase. You can't control the other 33 guys. They've got a right to race just like everyone else. They're still racing for their spot in the point standings and their share of championship prize money too. I'm not sure there's any solution to prevent what happened last year. When you're in the top-10 there at the end you've got to protect yourself. You've got to race hard but you've also got to protect yourself, and that's how you get into the Chase to begin with. It was just an unfortunate deal, but we always knew in the back of our minds that something like that could happen. We just didn't anticipate that it would happen in the first race of the Chase.
When you won the series championship in 2002 you started the season with a 43rd place finish in the Daytona 500. Did that tell you that you didn't have to start the season strong in order to factor into the title chase?
I think everybody is going to have a 'throw away' race. It's just a matter of when do you have it? You don't want to have it at the first race of the year because you soon realize that you're not going to have too many opportunities to have something like that happen again. After being at Daytona for 10 days it was a huge disappointment to go out and run two laps in the Daytona 500 and then leave early. But I think everyone is realistic about knowing that you have 26 races to get yourself into the Chase. But by the end of that 26th week you'd better be ready for those next 10 races because you've got to be consistently good each week.
What will it take to win another championship?
If I knew that we'd win the championship every year. There's no blueprint. Every year if you look back in the history of NASCAR there's never been two years that have been identical. Every year is kind of like a snowflake - they're all different. You've just got to take the circumstances you're dealt each week and work to consistently finish in the top-five. If you can do that every week you'll put yourself into a position to win the championship.
You didn't participate in this year's Daytona test, as Mike McLaughlin handled the #20 team's testing duties. Why?
From a driver's perspective, Daytona testing is kind of like watching paint dry. You go out there and try not to miss one of the three shifts you've got to make once you leave first gear. Testing at Daytona is more for the knowledge that Zippy and the teams learn than anything. It was a privilege and a pleasure to have Mike McLaughlin down there in the car so that I had an extra few days of vacation time to get ready for this season.
You tested at Texas Motor Speedway Jan. 18-19. What did you learn about the new spoiler and tire combination?
Until we get around other cars in race conditions, we're really not going to know how much of an affect the reduced spoiler height and the new tire compound will have. It didn't seem like it was a huge change for us. The test at Texas was a tire test for Goodyear, so you don't really get to work on your car a whole lot. You're there to test tires more than you are your race car. But I did feel comfortable in the car.
Do you have any concerns with the smaller rear spoiler and the new tire compound being introduced this year?
No, it is what it is. Things are going to change constantly, and no matter what changes you've got to learn to deal with it and learn to make the best of it. We ran at Texas for two days doing a Goodyear tire test and we didn't have any dramas. We'll see what happens when we get around other cars, but The Home Depot Chevrolet wasn't uncomfortable by itself.
Will having less downforce and softer tires better suit your driving style?
I've lain in bed at night wondering if it will. We really won't know until we get into the season. I'm hoping so. Two years ago we were in situations where track position was everything and you could run 150 laps on a set of tires and be just as fast as a guy with 30 laps on his tires. Last year we got away from that a little bit and hopefully this year we'll get away from it even more and get it back to where it was when I started in this series. Back then you had to really pay attention to your tire wear and not overdrive the car too early. Hopefully, we'll get into that kind of situation again. You're still going to find a balance in your race car. Everybody's cars aren't going to suddenly be loose. We'll be able to balance them out just like we always do no matter what the package is. We'll see how it affects all of us when we're in a crowd and there's less air on top of our cars.
With all the rules changes that have occurred during your six previous years in Nextel Cup, do you feel that your USAC background better prepared you to adapt to whatever rules changes NASCAR adopted?
I don't think it hurt, by any means. In USAC you might run a Midget on a quarter-mile dirt track one night, and then the next night you'd be on a half-mile pavement track with a Sprint car before running a mile dirt track the next day with a Silver Crown car. Bouncing around like that between two different surfaces and three types of cars probably does help when they make big changes here that affect the way these cars drive. You don't get stuck on a certain feel of a race car, so when changes come around it's just a matter of getting the balance back again. But I think all the drivers at this level, not just the guys who came from an open-wheel background, but the guys who have made it from Late Models at local short tracks and on up the ladder, they've all learned to adapt, and that's why they've made it as far as they have.
With all that goes on during Daytona Speedweeks, is it easy to lose track of what you need to do for the rest of the season?
I think everybody is realistic about it and has done this long enough to know that Daytona is a long, grueling week-and-a-half period. But aside from that you do your work there just like we do every week. If we were told to be at each race five days a week, we'd work hard for five days a week. You just work hard for the whole duration that you're down there, and hope that you get a good result out of it on Sunday. Then you go on to the other 25 races and get ready for the Chase.
You have two off days built into this year's Daytona Speedweeks schedule. How precious will those two days be?
I'm excited to see how it'll work out. Having the ability to go qualify and then impound the cars for two days is pretty good. It gives the crew guys a little more of a break. Those guys are the ones that really take the brunt of our schedule. They're at the track 16-17 hours some days, and to expect them to go back to the hotel that night and then be back at the race track at six in the morning on race day to get the car ready to race - that's pretty tough on those guys. It's a really good idea by NASCAR to build in some off days to the Speedweeks schedule and give these guys who are on the road and really working seven days a week. They work all week at the shop and then they work on the weekend. To give those guys a break here and there is something that'll really be good for our sport.
How is the transition going from wearing the Hutchens device to the newly mandated HANS device?
It's really rough right now to get it comfortable on me. I would prefer to have an option other than the HANS. Dr. Hubbard, who invented the HANS, came to Joe Gibbs Racing and worked with us on making me comfortable inside the race car. There's a lot of pressure points that the HANS sits on. I broke my collarbone some year's back and we've had a hard time to where it's not putting pressure on that collarbone. We're going to try out a couple of HANS setups in our tests at Las Vegas and California to try to make me more comfortable with it. I appreciate NASCAR's determination to make things safer for us, but at the same time they've got to understand that if we're not comfortable with something, that takes the safety element away from it.
Joe Gibbs Racing has added a third team with Jason Leffler as the driver, Dave Rogers as the crew chief and FedEx as the sponsor. Talk about that.
Jason used to be a roommate of mine back in Indiana and was a teammate with me here at Joe Gibbs Racing when he ran the Busch Series. It's nice to see that he got another crack at Nextel Cup. Jason and I work well together and we're good friends. I was scared that he wouldn't get another chance and that he wouldn't be able to get back into the Nextel Cup Series. I'm really excited that Joe and J.D. (Gibbs) gave him another chance here. I feel like he's ready this time. I think he was a little more eager to get into the Cup Series than I was for him to get into the Cup Series a couple of years ago. But with the experience that he's gained in the Busch Series, especially with the way he ran last year, and in Trucks I'm excited to have him back on board again as a teammate.
Is it almost a part of NASCAR life that a team has to have three cars?
Welcome to the evolution of NASCAR racing. It's definitely changed. This sport started changing before I got here and it'll continue to change when I leave. It's in a constant state of change. You look at how many people we have employed at Joe Gibbs Racing (approximately 300) and the size of our building (235,000 sq. ft. with the completed addition) and it's just for the Nextel Cup side of our operation. The Busch Series side of Joe Gibbs Racing has a shop all to its own.
Your car owner, Joe Gibbs, now has a full year of coaching back under his belt after an 11-year hiatus from the NFL. It takes a lot to be a car owner, never mind one who also happens to coach an NFL team. How does he do it?
He's a great leader. He's probably one of the most influential people I've ever met in my life. He's a great guy and a great motivator and he knows how to pick the right people for the right positions. He's just one of those people that you hope in your lifetime you get a chance to meet because of the impact he can make upon your life.
Did Joe Gibbs' return to the NFL affect the team in any way?
The biggest thing was that we all missed him as a person. That was probably the biggest thing that I saw. As far as the way everything ran here it was the same as it had always been. But when you have a guy like Joe who is so fun to be around, when he's not here you miss him.
You're competing in the Rolex 24 Hour race again this year, as are a lot of your NASCAR counterparts. What's making that race so attractive to NASCAR drivers?
It's fun to see all the guys going down there. Everybody's kind of caught the buzz as to what it's about and realizing that it's a lot of fun. Those opportunities really weren't present until the last couple of years, and I think the success that Dale Jr., and I had there last year really opened the doors for other guys in this series to be able to go down there and take a shot at it.
You came so close to winning the Rolex 24 Hour race last year. What do you think your chances are this year?
I have two great teammates. Obviously, having Andy Wallace back is good because he's a great leader for the team and has done pretty much all of the R&D work for the Crawford chassis. And having Jan Lammers back is good because we already know each other. I raced with him in my first 24 Hour race. Running with teammates who I've already run with in the past is a big advantage. We're not going to have to learn each other. They way Andy likes the car set-up is very similar to the way I like it. Remembering when I ran with Jan the first year, he's the same way - we wanted and expected the same things out of our race car. I think we're going to be able to work really well together with set-ups. I think what one guy likes is what all three of us are going to like. I'm looking forward to it. I think it's going to be a great race. I think everybody's going to be flat out for 24 hours. You're not going to have the luxury of taking it easy. You'll have to be conscience of how hard you're using the equipment, but I think you can run as hard as you feel like you can without abusing the race car. Not one team is going to be able to take it easy. All the teams are going to have to be flat out to try to win the race.
How is your role of track owner going since your purchase of Eldora Speedway in Rossburg, Ohio?
Eldora is a place where I've gone as a spectator, as a crew member, as a driver and as a car owner. I know a lot about the facility. It's a new venture for me. Kenny Schrader and Dave Blaney are drivers that have gotten into owning race tracks and now I've added my name to the list. In buying Eldora, the circumstances were just right. It wasn't something where we were looking to buy a race track, but Earl and Berneice Baltes, who owned Eldora, came to us and said we'd really like you to have this facility. I think they know my passion for open-wheel dirt track racing and they know that I've run dirt late models and modifieds and almost every type of car that races at Eldora. They know how much I respect the history of that side of the sport and how much I want to preserve it, while also looking ahead to see what we can do to make the facility grow. I'm learning how to spend a lot of money in a very short amount of time. It's something of a balancing act for me. I'm trying to be very conscience of not changing the atmosphere of Eldora, but at the same time trying to add to the experience at Eldora. I'm now learning the simple things like adding restrooms and other little odds and ends that you just don't think of as a driver or a crew member.
GREG ZIPADELLI, crew chief on the #20 Home Depot Chevrolet
What are your thoughts on having the longest active driver/crew chief relationship in the Nextel Cup Series?
I think it's a cool thing. I take some personal pride in that. We've done a good job with working together. We've definitely had some good times and some bad times, and with the bad times we've always gotten through them. We've got to continue to work on making the improvements that we need to from last year so that we perform to the best of our ability, which is always the bottom line. What happens a lot of times is that a relationship can get stale. The longer you stay together the harder it sometimes is to work together. I know that sounds contradictory. In some ways it's easier because you know the person and the personality, but at the same time the longer you're together the harder it is to be honest with one another because you've become better friends. And the closer you are with a friend the harder it is to tell that friend what sometimes need to be said, no matter how harsh. There's a fine line that you walk between having respect as a friend and having respect for the person that you work with. You can't let it get in the way of doing what needs to be done to perform.
Is that what chemistry means in the driver/crew chief relationship?
You can call it chemistry, but I look at is as having confidence in each other. I'm going to do whatever I can for him and in return he's going to drive as hard as he can every lap for everybody involved.
In late 1998 you were the rookie crew chief at Joe Gibbs Racing. Now seven years later you're the senior crew chief, overseeing the #20 team but also acting as a resource for the #18 and #11 teams, each of which have new crew chiefs for 2005. What do you think of that?
Crazy isn't it? I look at it as how old you are and how long you've been doing this. I'm 38 years old, but in dog years I'm really 55 or 60. I'm surprised by it in some areas because this job is so demanding, emotionally and physically. It's all a part of it, and he who does the best job of juggling it all survives the longest. It's a matter of how hard can you continue to go.
In today's age is a crew chief's job more on the mechanical side or on the human resources side?
It's definitely not on the mechanical side in terms of working on the car. It's on the technical side of 'What are we going to do this week to prepare for next week?' And a lot of it is human resources. It's people. You can't work on a race team without them but there are days when you wish you didn't have any of them, as the old saying goes. In a lot of ways it's fun, but it can also be pretty trying. It's one of the things that I like the most but I hate the most. And sometimes it's so overwhelming that I feel like I haven't done as good a job as I would've liked worrying about my race cars.
How has adding a third team affected your preparation for 2005?
We're doing the same thing that we did when we started the #20 team. The #18 team gave me some of their cars while we built some new ones. We're doing the same thing this time around. Each team gave the #11 team five cars, while they got five new ones, we got five new ones and the #18 team got five new ones. We've got a lot of cars built so we're in pretty good shape. Are they what we want? We don't know yet, because we haven't learned all there is to learn with the new spoiler rule and tire compound. They're based on what we believe to be true. And depending on how our tests go at Las Vegas and California, we could have a lot more work ahead of us. Last year when we went to Las Vegas to test we didn't have a very good test. So we came back to the shop and cut up a bunch of stuff and made some changes. It worked out, because when we went back there for the race, we ran well and finished third and led a lot of laps. That's just part of the business - being able to adapt and having people that you can count on to get it done.
Was adding the #11 team easier because the pains of team expansion were discovered when the #20 team was added in late 1998?
It's gone very smoothly. Jimmy (Makar, senior vice president of racing) did a great job and spent a lot of time preparing when we started the #20 team. And as a company, Joe Gibbs Racing has done it again with the addition of the #11. We're a little bit behind in the building expansion, so the last time we did it we were in a little bit better shape than we are now. But we have more resources now than we did then, so we'll be all right.
How much did the rules changes for 2005 affect car construction?
With some of the cars we just cut the rear spoiler to the new specified height and others we built from scratch. We didn't want to take everything and start over, because you may not be able to get back to where you were. So we have some baseline configurations. We know they have a little less downforce but we know they're still good cars. We're kind of using them as guinea pigs to give ourselves something to compare ourselves to.
There are lots of new faces at the shop. Is that due to the creation of the #11 team or is it because this sport just demands so much that it takes an army of people to deliver the goods on race day?
It's a combination of both. A lot of people have been added because of the #11 car, and because of the schedule with so many West Coast trips - especially early in the year - there's less days in the shop. There are more days traveling, so when we're gone we still need people to do the work at the shop. You've got to make it up somehow. We're a little over 300 people now.
Will the reconfiguration of the race weekends, where you practice late in the day on Friday, qualify on Saturday, impound the cars and then race on Sunday benefit the crews?
I think it hurts, to be honest. Now we go in on Friday and have race practice for two-and-a-half hours. You don't get any time to sit and debrief with your driver. You don't have any time to just stop, take all your notes home, look at it, think about the changes you're going to make, and then apply those changes. It'll cause more stress and we still didn't save anything. We're still going to the race track on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Hopefully it's a work in progress and it'll get better in the future.
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